You were listening to The Next Best Picture podcast, and this is Dan Baer's interview with the director and writer for the love that remains.

Hilbert Pomasa.

Far, far away in a small rural town, a family of five plus a sheepdog are enjoying a late night dinner.

They look happy and content, safely tucked away from all the dangers of the world.

The mother, a talented but struggling artist, is preparing her most ambitious work.

It's nice. Are they all brown?

The father is out providing for the family on a 15,000 tonne fishing boat.

Look at this ground.

Look at this.

The children are privileged with the freedom of running around without a care in the world,

living in perfect harmony with nature,

whatever that means.

There are no far-right extremists or murderers in this film.

Only normal people with normal feelings and normal problems.

Pika, pika, pika, pika.

We are interested in the small everyday things, normal feelings and normal problems. Pika, big, big, big, big. Mian, that doesn't work?

We are interested in the small everyday things,

like hiking, washing a dog, snow, food, frozen fish, rubber boots,

the seasons, orcas, summer dress, shondar.

Say there are the man under a unming, you'll do that

Bergen.

Humor, sex,

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