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🗓️ 19 September 2023
⏱️ 160 minutes
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Back in the early days of the podcast, we tried to take a rest from the wearisome repetition of polemical partisan gurus by covering JP Sears- an alternative-health self-help coach with a sideline in 'comedic parody'. Sadly, we soon discovered he was a red-pilled Roganite 'just asking questions' about all the usual right-wing partisan topics, but with an added dollop of pseudo-profound, self-indulgent spiritual blather.
JP Sears wasn't an isolated case; he exemplified a disturbingly prevalent trend. One that was supercharged during the pandemic and can be observed clearly in figures like Russell Brand, Aubrey Marcus, RFK Jnr and a whole slew of QAnon and anti-vaccine influencers.
To help us disentangle this quagmire and the dynamics at play, we are joined by the three co-hosts of the popular Conspiritualty podcast: Matthew Remski, Julian Walker, and Derek Beres.
We've spoken with them many times over the past few years about a variety of topics but in today's conversation, we explore the contemporary state of the Conspirituality sphere and discuss broader themes they have observed (& how they relate to the gurus we cover). We also examine whether they view activism as core to their podcast, how they handle attacks or engage with legitimate criticism, and how they feel about their own place in the ecosystems they discuss.
We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did!
Also covered in the opening segment is a cursed guru-sphere crossover between the Triggernometry guys and our old favourite, Scott Adams.
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0:00.0 | The Oh, Hello and |
0:25.0 | welcome to Decoding the Guru's, the podcast, |
0:28.0 | where an anthropologist and a psychologist listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer |
0:31.0 | and we try to understand what they're talking about. |
0:33.4 | I'm Matt Brown with me as Chris Kavanaugh as always it's the middle of the day I've done |
0:38.6 | on my meetings we thought it's time to record we're gonna record how you doing |
0:42.1 | Chris I'm doing all. I'm doing all right. It's midweek. |
0:47.3 | No, it's not. It's the end of the week. Oh, Friday man. |
0:49.6 | I've forgotten what day it is. I'm counting down the hours. I've got a bubble |
0:54.8 | here with my name on it. This is again the kind of thing |
0:57.5 | that we always say you shouldn't do because then people know the |
1:02.0 | I don't understand why people shouldn't know. |
1:04.0 | Why shouldn't they know? |
1:05.6 | So they feel that they're part of the eternal present |
1:08.9 | of the de-coding the guru, you know, |
1:11.3 | and the shit. That's the reality guys you're listening to this in the future |
1:16.4 | this this is the past I can stop you like the villain had time traveling guy |
1:22.4 | just go back and undo what you've done. |
1:26.0 | But yes, so Matt, we have an interview episode today with the fine folks over from the |
1:32.0 | Conspiratoriality Podcast. |
1:34.0 | We were on there recently and they grilled us |
1:37.8 | relentlessly about our obsession with secular gurus, |
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