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Decoding the Gurus

Interview with Stuart Neil on SARS CoV-2

Decoding the Gurus

Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

Science, Leisure, Social Sciences, Society & Culture

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2021

⏱️ 120 minutes

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Summary

You might have noticed there's been a bit of talk recently about a certain virus. A virus that may or may not have a vaccine that is very safe and effective, that may or may not be curable via hydroxychloroquine, vitamin D and ivermectin. That may or may not have escaped from a certain Chinese lab....

Yes folks, we're talking about SARS CoV-2. And although it's technically not directly guru-related, these are topics that have sucked so many of our gurus in like a conceptual black hole.

So, we were particularly happy that Dr. Stuart Neil was willing to talk to us and sort this stuff out. Stuart is a Professor of Virology at King's College London. He's a specialist in virus cell biology and immunology, antiviral restriction, and has studied HIV, Ebola, and most recently COVID.

Stuart is passionate about helping to inform the public about the state of scientific knowledge on COVID, and is known for his many excellent twitter threads helping to provide summaries and combat the misinformation and conspiracy theories that surround these topics.

In this episode, Stuart gives a nuanced and crystal clear summary of where the evidence is pointing on these COVID-related topics. Stuart's frank about what we do and we do not know on these topics. And with Matt and Chris, there's interesting discussions about the controversies surrounding THAT letter to the Lancet, how scientific publishing works, and how the 'scientific consensus' develops in a politically charged and highly dynamic situation.

If you have friends or colleagues who are uncertain about what positions the evidence supports on COVID, then THIS is the guy and THIS is the episode you want them to listen to.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're going to. Hello and welcome to Dakota Naguaries the podcast we're an anthropologist

0:20.9

and a psychologist listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer and we try to understand what they're talking about.

0:26.4

I'm Matt Brown and with me is Chris Kavanaugh.

0:28.8

We're not decoding any great minds today, but we are talking to a great mind aren't we Chris that's right we've

0:35.1

invited on an illustrious guest as we are want to do to try and alleviate our

0:41.2

shoddy ill Form texts.

0:44.0

Yes, that's right, that helps us out.

0:46.0

We'll introduce him a little bit later on,

0:48.0

but I was really glad to do this interview because even though it's not directly

0:52.0

guru-related, it pertains to this particular topic about vaccines and

0:59.5

Iver meeked and so and you may have heard of those topics Chris if you recall it's a bit of buzz about them in the media recently

1:05.1

No either what I've heard yeah Ivan mechtin I've a michton. Yeah, I've a michton. Yeah, however I've heard of thing. I've heard, you know, just an ifer once or twice people mention that topic. Yeah. And at Lab, something leaked from a lab. I've seen that once or twice online as well right? Yeah, some.

1:24.0

I think it was a gas or a flock of birds or something.

1:27.0

Gotta out from a while.

1:28.0

All I know is, shh, you're not allowed to talk about that.

1:31.0

That's it.

1:32.0

We're in danger match. about that. That's it. We're in danger much.

1:34.0

X-Nay on the lab, lab-leg chat, okay?

1:37.0

Okay.

1:38.0

Okay, okay.

1:40.0

So yes, we are going to be talking about COVID and lab leaks and even though it's not guru specific, it's obviously one of these topics that has sucked in so many of our gurus like a kind of conceptual black hole.

1:52.4

It was great to get somebody on who actually knows what. is like a kind of conceptual black hole.

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