You are listening to The Next Best Picture podcast, and this is my interview with the star

for the film Springsteen, deliver me from nowhere. Jeremy Allen White.

It's a hard thing. I'm realizing people aren't who you want them to be.

It feels different coming home. There's a real emptiness.

I think Bruce is afraid of what's coming.

And he feels guilty leaving behind the world he knows.

That's like I'm always running away from something.

Like the past is breathing down my neck.

I don't have to tell you. We got to hit it out of the park with the next record Bruce Springsteen.

It's on a rocket ship. We don't want to miss that window.

We label once you have your first top ten, they're just thinking about momentum.

I'm trying to find something real. These nuisals, they're different, but they're the only thing making sense to me right now. The only thing I can still believe it. Then we'll get it. Whatever it takes. Jeremy Allen White, welcome back to the show, man. Good seeing you. Thanks. Good to see you too.

Yeah, man. I can't believe that I was at Telluride New York Film Festival, AFI Fest. I saw the film at all three festivals.

Oh, what? This is the first time I've run into you. Yeah. Man, it's crazy because when I last saw you, it was Ironcoth. And it was in Texas at the premiere.

And I remember you saying you were on the cusp of realizing that your career was basically changing and that you were finally starting to be offered roles and that, you know, you could tell the whole career trajectory was at the shooting point.

Yeah.

For sure. Would you say we're

officially in that moment yeah yeah I mean I think I feel I feel so lucky you know I

think there was a period in my career where I mean I always felt lucky to work I've

always worked since I was so young,

and that's really the goal, you know,

to make a career out of this and to support yourself doing this.

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