You are listening to The Next Best Picture podcast, and this is Brendan Hodges' interview with the cinematographer for Pi, Matthew Lipitique.

1245, restate my assumptions.

1. Mathematics is the language of nature.

2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.

3. If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge.

Therefore, there are patterns everywhere in nature.

This is insanity, Max. Or maybe it's genius.

You only gave us part of the code.

You are only a vessel of our God.

I have a lot of the visual hallmarks of your collaborations with your frequent collaborator,

Darren Aronofsky, thinking of the handheld camera, a lot of stylization, subjectivity, stuff like that.

What does it like to look back on Pi after all this time?

It's beyond nostalgia really,

because it is bringing up a lot of,

you know, of our beginnings.

You know, we sat as we restored,

we scanned the film, we recolored,

we regraded it, not colored,

we regraded the film,

sitting in a room and sort of looking at scenes

and remembering where we shot them and how we were back then as like really hungry young filmmakers.

It was as a good exercise, actually.

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