Today I'm talking to Paul Sinclair, who has done real boots on the ground work over many, many years to gather this information.

It goes very deep. We've got missing people,

encounters, anomalous, strange lights, unidentified creatures, hints of the occult, and a growing sense of menace as the investigations become quite possibly dangerous. So I'd like to introduce

Paul Sinclair, who's written the book Truth Proof. Hi, Paul.

Hi, Stefan. Thank you very much for talking to me today. It'd be good to share a few

bits of information with your listeners and yourself. Thank you very much.

Honour to have you one.

Yeah, well, you know, I mean, I like to think I'm no better or worse than anyone else. I think probably what we've got lacking in this field at the moment is people who actually

boots on the ground and want to do a bit of door knocking and spend time in archives.

And that's what's needed if you're going to get to it, these first-hand accounts, you know,

the sort of the meat of a story.

I mean, this morning, for instance,

at 5.30, I were on Clifftops at Benton because there's things happening up there at the moment.

Now, did I see anything? No. But that's the nature of it. I mean, I was up there in the week in the night. Did we see anything?

No.

But once again, we're not guaranteed this.

If we were guaranteed to see things and experience things,

every time we went into these areas of high strangeness,

it wouldn't be strange, as you know, Steph.

Paul, could you tell everybody about Bempton where it is and a little bit about the atmosphere of the place and the history of the place?

Yeah, yeah, no problem. Well, Bempton and Flandborough, the sort of mile, a few miles apart and I live probably four miles away in the little fishing town of Bridlington.

During the daytime, I mean, Benton gets

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