You are listening to The Next Best Picture of Podcast, and this is Dan Baer's interview,

with the director and writer for Orlando, my political biography, Paul B. Presiano.

I'm Coriangeles Brown and don't see film. I'm the Orlando of Virginia Woolf.

Someone once asked me, why don't you write your biography?

I replied because fucking Virginia Woolf wrote my biography in 1928.

Welcome everyone to the next best picture podcast where we are talking with Paul B. Presiado,

the director of Orlando, my political biography. Paul, thank you so much

for joining us today. Thank you for having me. Thank you. It's a pleasure.

Very excited to talk to you because Orlando, my political biography, is one of the most unique

films I think I've ever seen. I don't think anything can fully prepare people

for what they will experience while watching this film. And it wasn't until just recently

when I was doing some research for this interview that I learned that this came about because

you were approached about people wanting to make a film about you.

And it somehow turned into this.

So this is a very unusual adventure.

I mean, honestly, I have to say that I never thought I would make a film myself.

You know, I'm, as maybe people know, I'm a writer.

That's what I've been doing all my life.

I do philosophy and political theory and body theory and whatever.

And then, yes, like a French German television company came, which is Arté,

came to me and they said to me that they wanted to make a documentary about my life,

my philosophy, whatever, but also because they've been making films about trans and transitioning people,

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