So hello, welcome to another episode of Expander's Secret. I'm here today with Lee Lurie from Seller Investigators.

Lee, thank you very much for coming on. How's it going today? It's great. Lovely.

It's a beautiful day here in Atlanta, Georgia.

So Lee's on there, leaves on the East Coast.

So we managed to find a time where it both fits us.

And, yeah, as I said, maybe a little bit jealous of the nice weather in grey England today.

So, yeah, let's get this kicked off, I guess, straight from the start,

late.

First of all, thank you for coming on.

No worries.

Always a pleasure.

And let's get a little bit more about yourself and how you got into the e-commands industry.

Yeah, so we've been running this business about six years, give or take.

I got into this business kind of, I guess, by a series of events, I actually had a really early

wearable device, arguably one of the first wearable devices that track the quality of your sleep.

And in the process of that business, this was many, many moons ago.

I was in Hong Kong and I met

some, some U.S. people. And we ended up being stuck in between a couple of trade shows. And so we

went to Macau for the weekend. And we went gambling and having a good time. And Rob and I kind of

became, you know, we became friends.

I mean, just because of going out and being in an industry that was somewhat similar,

he was selling products at these trade shows as well, not related to what I was doing,

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