You are listening to The Next Best Picture podcast, and this is Daniel Howard's interview with the members of Kneecap, Lachara, Boglaibap, and DJ Provi, along with the film's writer and director, Rich Pappian.

Tell me something about you, something you've never told anyone else.

I'm a rapper.

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It took him nearly six months of convincing us and a lot of Guinness as well.

And Beamish.

And Beamish, of course.

We were a bit reluctant at the start to actually believe that he was interested in a making an actual movie because we'd have people approach us.

Before and they were like wanting to do like documentaries or series and they live in their mum's basement.

Don't really have any plans.

I got kicked out of my mum's basement.

He did. Yeah. He doesn't watch himself.

He escaped.

But yeah, eventually after a while, you know, he warmed up to us. We started the leg, Rich, after a few more Guinness. That only lasted a brief time, that's a period. But yeah, now, he came with the idea. I mean, seen obviously Rich just done work before, the one rogue reporter, shout out. And it's all kind of the same kind of vein as the kneecap movie about pushing boundaries and controversial and stuff.

So once we've seen that there, we opened up to them.

And yeah, Rich, this is your debut directorial feature.

What was the learning curve like for you hopping on to not just any feature,

but a feature with energy and kind of wildness like this?

Well, I think in a way, it really helps.

You can have a starting point of their music, right?

Normally music is something that you kind of think about maybe towards the end of the process of making a film.

While here, it was the very foundation of it.

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