Interview with Julian Walker on Conspirituality, Conspiracies and (Global) Culture Wars
Decoding the Gurus
Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne
4.2 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 26 March 2022
⏱️ 118 minutes
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Summary
Another interview episode - we've had a flurry recently but don't worry, we'll be returning to a good ol' fashioned decoding episode very soon. This week we just couldn't resist the opportunity to have a chinwag with our podcasting compadre Julian Walker, an eloquent writer on evidence-based & conspiracy matters and co-host of the Conspirituality podcast.
Julian's a yoga instructor and (maybe even) a spiritual kinda guy, but has long opposed the conspiratorial, anti-science, and exploitative guru side of the yoga & 'health & wellness' communities. In short, he's a science-minded guy moving in spiritual and yoga circles, who is now directly involved in countering the endless proliferation of pseudoscientific & conspiratorial nonsense.
So, Matt and Chris take this opportunity to pick Julian's brain about what's been going on over on the crunchy side of the aisle, how it relates (and even overlaps) with the secular gurus, and the cultural moment we're in more generally.
Due to the backlog caused by lazy elves in the DTG editing bay, some of the references to the trucker convoy and whatnot are a bit outdated, nor will you hear any mention of Ukraine. But don't mind that! Julian's got a lot of insight to offer and we hope you enjoy listening to him as much as we did!
Links
- Conspirituality 90: The Convoy is an Occupation (w/ Elizabeth Simons). More detailed analysis of the Trucker Convoy
- Conspirituality 95: Aleksandr Dugin: Kali Yuga Chess. A recent episode by Julian doing a deep dive on Putin's alleged guru.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | You're going to. Hello and welcome again to Decoding the Guru's the podcast were an anthropologist and a psychologist |
| 0:29.0 | listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer and we try to understand what they're talking about. |
| 0:34.4 | I'm Professor Matt Brown and with me is Chris Kavanaugh. |
| 0:37.3 | Today Chris we've got someone to help us with some decoding. |
| 0:40.4 | Well we're not really decoding, we're just talking about stuff. |
| 0:42.8 | We're chewing the fat, we're talking about the world in general, aren't we? |
| 0:46.8 | Are we? |
| 0:47.8 | We're decoding, Matt, we're always decoding. |
| 0:49.4 | Our minds are always running over. |
| 0:51.1 | Every day, it's like deja vu. |
| 0:53.2 | It's almost like our introduction. |
| 0:54.8 | We've said it so many times. |
| 0:57.6 | One day bleeds into the next. |
| 0:59.8 | I'm getting really good at saying the introduction. |
| 1:01.8 | It's only after the introduction is over that my |
| 1:04.6 | elocution tends to fall apart. But that first bit, nailed it. Well, I'm glad you say it. I've tried to say it one or two times, |
| 1:12.4 | and it doesn't go that well. You can't do it. You can't do it. |
| 1:15.4 | I don't have the enthusiasm. Welcome to the coding the girls. It's like a morning |
| 1:21.0 | show. Morning Joe show or Morning Zoo is that what they call those things. |
| 1:27.0 | So you probably like a good Decoding the Guru's fan are listening to this episode |
| 1:32.4 | having listening to nothing else and done anything else except |
| 1:36.1 | listen to the previous episode with Josh Zepps. |
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