Hey Jack, I'm seeing your business everywhere. Have you got a new marketing person or something?

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How did you know? Come on. Custom posters, branded mugs, stylish flyers. Only one place prints all that. Vista print.

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Escaping Denver. Supplementary.

Interview with Jonathan Kay.

Thank you. with Jonathan Kay.

All right. Let's jump right into it. Yes, we're at a bit of a standstill when it comes to Noah and Sarah's journey, but that doesn't mean the work stops. I don't know about you, but I still have more questions than when I started this, and I don't plan on waiting out on any more magical messages to help me solve them. I'm going to continue doing what I've been doing so far, trudging along, researching where I can research, and talking to more experts when the

opportunity arises. While it's relatively easy to look up some of the things Noah says or

alludes to or that Sarah interacts with, it's a little harder for me to understand Noah himself.

Sarah, I get. I don't know her,

but I get her. She didn't believe in any far-out conspiracy theories before she found herself

way steep in it, and that I get. Noah, on the other hand, believed. I've got hours of messages

that should be proof enough for me that the world has way more going on than I first thought,

and even I'm still on the fence.

Noah had nothing.

From what I can surmise, he probably lived a very mild and inoffensive life before all this started.

He went on adventures of the mind, but I'd be surprised if he owned an actual pair of hiking woods.

He believed without having experienced anything, at least not that he's mentioned.

But what made him believe in the first place? That's what brought me to journalist and author Jonathan

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