You are listening to The Next Best Picture podcast, and this is Dan Bear's interview with the director and writer for I Saw the TV glow, Jane Schoenbrun, and the film star Bridget Lundy Payne.

I know this might sound crazy. I don't want to alarm you.

Do you remember a TV show we used to watch together? It was called...

The Pinko Bay?

Yeah. Do you watch?

Why? You're in the night sky.

I am.

Are a enough in the conference room background on it.

No, I mean, I have to go thematically. You know how it is. are a non-mic conference room background on.

No, I mean, I have to go thematically.

You know how it is.

You're an episode of season six, and I'm for the big O'clock.

Press tour is, yeah, press for season seven.

I am available if you're shooting it.

Jane, Shunburn, Vichit, thank you so much for joining us.

I am really excited to talk to you.

I wanted to thank you for giving me extremely weird dreams last night after I saw this movie.

But I wanted to start by asking Jane what it was like for you going from the, we're all going to the World's Fair, which was only two characters, very minimal settings to this, which is almost like directing two projects at once between the film and the pink opaque.

I think from the very beginning, I like knew it was going to be a huge jump in terms of budget and scope.

And I tried my best to be, like, humble about it, like, almost feeling like I was directing my first film for a second time.

Because I think actually, like, the two ways of making a movie that I've done so far in the feature length,

right? Like going out in the woods with 10 friends and making something completely bare bones,

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