You are listening to the Next Best Picture podcast, and this is Daniel Howitz interview with the director, writer, producer, and I really can't wait to hear more about it so I appreciate your time this morning.

Thanks for having.

Well, this is your second feature film after Away.

Both films are dialogue-free and most directors would see that as a challenging limitation.

But you seem to thrive telling stories this way. What appeals to you about telling a story

without dialogue? I also would consider the challenging limitation, but that's something I wanted to

embrace, challenge myself, but also having these limitations can be good. It forces me to kind of come up with

original ways of telling stories.

And coming up is ways that are very unique to cinema, which are maybe you couldn't do it in any other way.

And I can be more expressive with all the other tools that tell the story instead of the dialogue.

It's not competing with the dialogue. I can use the camera

and the music and the animation, editing, lighting, everything. It can be more expressive and has more

room to explore things. It's also like I've never felt comfortable with dialogue. To me, it's,

I think that would be even more challenging to me to attempt something like that. I've always been kind of visual in terms of my way of thinking.

So this is something that I'm used to, which I kind of developed throughout the years. And it's also great that this type of a film can be understood by everyone.

It can be understood by different ages and also in different parts of the world.

So distributors are happy.

They don't have to spend money on translation.

And also, I think, I knew that there would be animals in this film,

which would be like from an animal point of view,

and then they would behave like animals.

So at no moment I consider putting any humans there

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