And the Oh, I'm here with Clint Tible, the archaeologist from Cardiff University, themed Internet Warrior,

fusing the pseudo-archiologist hordes,

and my call-ho seat is empty,

there's a missing Australian vibe because the yellow 50% some

would say of the According to the Guru's podcast is potentially asleep in America,

Stuizine away, possibly dreaming by the ancient civilizations and whatnot, but not here,

but he gave me his permission to represent the coding the Guru's brand so I

apologize that you're stuck with the junior half of the team, but nonetheless, thank you for making the time, and it's

good to see you again.

It's good to be back.

It was a good time chatting with both of you last time, and I'm sure it'll be a good time

chatting with you, Chris.

Yeah, so now a surprise guest.

I've just got Graham Hancock behind the curtain here.

I'm gonna, not quite, but I, yeah, I suspect everybody in our audience is aware that you had, you know, a career in archaeology and have an ongoing career in archaeology and have a ongoing career in archaeology and I can be a career.

You had a career, it's over there, but you probably rose to broader awareness with the Hancock to be with Rogin, for a lot of people.

And I think since then as well, it's fair to say that you've become something of like a public

face for archaeology online I know there are all other people doing similar things on YouTube and in some cases like focusing on

debunking and in some cases presenting history but your YouTube channel existed before the whole issue with Roggen, but has there

been a like significant rise in subscribers or popularity off the back of that or did you just get pure notoriety from it?

Well a little bit from Macaule, a little bit from Colin B.

I mean, some of it was also just me and my wife,

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