Welcome, everybody. This is Rites and barrels. I'm Al Malkyar. I'm here with Enos,

Saris, and we've got a really, really special episode

here for you. Enno interviewed Chris Langen of Driveline, a lot of really, really interesting stuff,

some of which maybe you wouldn't necessarily think at first glance is actionable. But, you know,

you and I were just talking. And there's a lot of little nuggets there that I think are going to be

useful to us for thinking about certain pitchers and maybe even a little bit more broadly than that.

So we'll get to that interview very shortly here.

But before we do, just a little bit of background.

So, you know, you were talking with Chris about really the process that a pitcher would go through when they go to

drive line. So, you know, you and I kind of joked about this on episode last week about, you know,

oh, it's like drive line is like the new best shape of my life. You go to drive line and, you know,

magic happens. But it's really interesting. Danny sent me, a listener Danny sent me a image of

he went to drive line with the ring with a dry line.

It's, yeah, it's become a meme all of its own.

But this kind of breaks it down, this interview that you did with Chris, because not only do you talk about the process, but there's some really interesting discussion about how sometimes

the process doesn't work for everybody or it works in different ways for different pitchers,

and I thought that was really cool.

Yeah, he gives us some insight, basically, into some organizational trends in terms of what teams are doing what

and how they're treating large swaths of minor leaguers.

So I found that part pretty interesting.

And, you know, the whole beginning of this,

I met him when I went and underwent the process

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