Hello everyone.

Welcome to Queer's Fact.

I'm Irene.

I'm Alice.

And we're here today with Danielle Scrimshaw, who's going to talk to us about her book,

she and her pretty friend.

We have some content warnings for this episode.

This episode will include discussions of historical and modern queer phobia and racism,

and also one instance of mild swearing.

If any of that is something you don't want to hear, feel free to skip this episode and check out our other content.

We'd like to acknowledge the Waurundry Woiwurang people on whose land we're recording this podcast.

We pay our respects to their elders past and present and recognize that they are the custodians

of an oral tradition far older than this podcast.

I'd just like to mention that we are recording this interview in a library.

So if you can hear any background noise of people chattering or doors opening and closing

or anything, we apologize for that. Do you want to just talk a little bit about what the book's about? Yeah, I can do that.

So it's a queer history of Australian women dating from around their 1840s to early 1980s. Each

chapter kind of focuses on a different woman or time period, which I felt was important

for the overall history of queer women's experience in Australia.

And it began as an honours thesis while I was at Melbourne uni and then it just kind of

developed into a book

because I graduated and was still obsessed with these queer women.

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