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Interview with Charlie Wheelan: Naked Economics

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🗓️ 31 August 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Charlie Wheelan has spent his career making complex ideas understandable and accessible. He’s the faculty director for the Dartmouth Tuck Center for Business, Government & Society, and the best-selling author of Naked Economics, Naked Money, and Naked Statistics. Motley Fool analyst Buck Hartzell and Motley Fool contributor Rich Lumelleau talk with Wheelan about tariffs, technology, and business. Tariffs and trade Manufacturing and technology National debt AI and investing Host: Buck Hartzell, Rich LumelleauProducer: Mac GreerEngineer: Adam LandfairDisclosure: Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. The Motley Fool and its affiliates (collectively, “TMF”) do not endorse, recommend, or verify the accuracy or completeness of the statements made within advertisements. TMF is not involved in the offer, sale, or solicitation of any securities advertised herein and makes no representations regarding the suitability, or risks associated with any investment opportunity presented. Investors should conduct their own due diligence and consult with legal, tax, and financial advisors before making any investment decisions. TMF assumes no responsibility for any losses or damages arising from this advertisement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The idea of comparative advantage is do what you're good at, let other people do what they're good at,

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and then you trade, and everybody's made better off.

0:25.3

That was Charlie Wheelan, a professor of business and public policy at Dartmouth.

0:30.8

I'm Motley Fool producer, MacGaree. Charlie Whelan is a best-selling author whose books include naked economics, naked money, and naked statistics. As you'll hear in a minute, Charlie

0:36.9

is really great at making the complex

0:39.4

not so complex. Motleyful analyst Buck Hartzell and Motleyful contributor Rich Lumelo recently had a chance

0:45.7

to talk with Wheelan about trade, technology, and a whole lot more. I'm going to start off,

0:52.2

first of all, with tariffs, because obviously there's been since April 2nd, so-called Liberation Day, there's been a lot of changes in tariff policy. So maybe just for kind of our listeners, can you give us an idea like, what is a tariff? And then we'll talk a little bit more about it. But I'll say, first of all, just kind of what is a tariff? It's a tax. It's a tax on something that is imported. It's an age-old tax because back before we had the capacity to do income taxes or sales taxes, the easy way to collect a tax was with customs houses. So if you go to any big old city, there's always some beautiful building. It's the

1:27.6

customs house. Where are we going to get money from the ships that come in that are selling tea or

1:31.7

wool or something else like that? So it's an age-old way of taxing things that come into the

1:36.8

country. It is paid by the people who are actually bringing it in. But that's what we call

1:42.0

like the statutory instance. That's who actually writes the check. But I think for your listeners and to understand the issue, there's a more

1:49.0

important concept, which is kind of what's the economic incident? So who actually bears the

1:53.9

cost? It's not the same. So I'll turn your attention to something that most people are more

1:58.6

familiar with, which is something like a property tax. And you say, well, who pays the property tax? People who own property.

2:05.7

But then if you say, well, I'm a renter so I don't pay property tax, that's not true, because

2:10.0

your landlord pays it and then passes it along. So the big economic question right now is how

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much of these tariffs are getting passed along and to whom?

2:20.4

And that is a very complicated but very important question.

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Warren Buffett said something I thought was kind of interesting.

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He said, I guarantee you that these tariffs aren't paid by the tooth fairy.

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Right.

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