Interview with Charlie Wheelan: Naked Economics
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🗓️ 31 August 2025
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| 0:00.0 | The idea of comparative advantage is do what you're good at, let other people do what they're good at, |
| 0:11.1 | and then you trade, and everybody's made better off. |
| 0:25.3 | That was Charlie Wheelan, a professor of business and public policy at Dartmouth. |
| 0:30.8 | I'm Motley Fool producer, MacGaree. Charlie Whelan is a best-selling author whose books include naked economics, naked money, and naked statistics. As you'll hear in a minute, Charlie |
| 0:36.9 | is really great at making the complex |
| 0:39.4 | not so complex. Motleyful analyst Buck Hartzell and Motleyful contributor Rich Lumelo recently had a chance |
| 0:45.7 | to talk with Wheelan about trade, technology, and a whole lot more. I'm going to start off, |
| 0:52.2 | first of all, with tariffs, because obviously there's been since April 2nd, so-called Liberation Day, there's been a lot of changes in tariff policy. So maybe just for kind of our listeners, can you give us an idea like, what is a tariff? And then we'll talk a little bit more about it. But I'll say, first of all, just kind of what is a tariff? It's a tax. It's a tax on something that is imported. It's an age-old tax because back before we had the capacity to do income taxes or sales taxes, the easy way to collect a tax was with customs houses. So if you go to any big old city, there's always some beautiful building. It's the |
| 1:27.6 | customs house. Where are we going to get money from the ships that come in that are selling tea or |
| 1:31.7 | wool or something else like that? So it's an age-old way of taxing things that come into the |
| 1:36.8 | country. It is paid by the people who are actually bringing it in. But that's what we call |
| 1:42.0 | like the statutory instance. That's who actually writes the check. But I think for your listeners and to understand the issue, there's a more |
| 1:49.0 | important concept, which is kind of what's the economic incident? So who actually bears the |
| 1:53.9 | cost? It's not the same. So I'll turn your attention to something that most people are more |
| 1:58.6 | familiar with, which is something like a property tax. And you say, well, who pays the property tax? People who own property. |
| 2:05.7 | But then if you say, well, I'm a renter so I don't pay property tax, that's not true, because |
| 2:10.0 | your landlord pays it and then passes it along. So the big economic question right now is how |
| 2:16.2 | much of these tariffs are getting passed along and to whom? |
| 2:20.4 | And that is a very complicated but very important question. |
| 2:23.7 | Warren Buffett said something I thought was kind of interesting. |
| 2:25.9 | He said, I guarantee you that these tariffs aren't paid by the tooth fairy. |
| 2:29.7 | Right. |
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