Hi, Hi guys welcome back to preview lines podcast this is Sarah here with you and today I am super

excited to have on so let's give on you guys know her on social from the ultimate mom challenge and you know her as being a sober mom advocate

but she has a new book out it's not about the wine and you may be going okay

well what does that mean well we're gonna tell you but this story that I'm so happy to bring to you is about how we all need to

take a look at ourselves and why it's not okay for moms to not be okay. and Celeste welcome, so happy to have you.

Thank you, Sarah, I'm just delighted to be here.

I will be very transparent. I heard about your book and I thought,

huh, okay, there has to be something more to this and diving into it before this interview and the statistics that recently just came out that the number one cause of maternal mortality in the first year of childbirth is suicide and overdose and I thought okay that makes sense right we're numbing how we're filling and I thought this is the perfect opportunity to have this conversation with you.

Yeah, it's a topic that we desperately need to tackle as a society because it's so easy to feel gas-lighted in new motherhood that you should only feel

hashtag blessed you should only feel incredible and cherish every single moment.

But when your head's not there,

none of that, none of that matters.

There's nothing to cherish because you are in survival mode and that needs to be talked about more

We need to allow mothers to be in a place where they can safely say how they're really feeling without fear of judgment, without fear of

having their kids taken from them, without fear of implications and just support and just help.

That's what mothers need more than anything

and we're not there yet, sadly.

No, and you brought that up.

So you and your story, let's go back to you're a new mom.

And when did you realize something wasn't right?

The very first day, I would say that things did not feel right

and we chucked it up to our baby had colic, we chocked it up to being new parents, we didn't know how to

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