Hello and welcome to the Storygrid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you become a better

writer. I'm your host Tim Graal and I am a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a story

that works. Joining me shortly is Mike McClellan. He is the author of the C&C, a book we published

earlier this year through Storygrid publishing. This is part two of a three-part series of the conversation I had with Mike.

So if you haven't listened to Part 1, check your feed, go back, listen to Part 1,

and then jump into Part 2 as well.

I hope you're enjoying it.

I got a lot out of this conversation with Mike.

So let's jump in and go ahead and get started.

How do you keep track of, because I think you said there was 120 speaking characters in the book.

Is that accurate?

I think that's close.

Like about 120.

So you have around 120 speaking characters.

You have,

I don't know, at least five or six different civilizations kind of clashing in different ways.

And you would, I forgot, I should have like marked it when I was reading it.

But there was this

one line, maybe two thirds of the way through the book where you just like reference this

kind of minor characters' parents and where they came from. And I'm like, I think he knows,

like, not only that minor character's parents and where they came from, but the history

of the land where they came from and probably who their grandparents were and probably

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