Interview with an Anarchist Fighting in Ukraine
It Could Happen Here
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🗓️ 25 April 2022
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Over several days, Robert conducted an interview with an Anarchist militant fighting as part of an Anarchist volunteer militia unit in Ukraine.
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| 1:48.0 | Today, this is another episode about the war in Ukraine. It's going to be eventually an interview with a Ukrainian anarchist militant who is fighting on behalf of Ukrainian people in that conflict. |
| 2:03.0 | But here's a little introduction first. So anarchists are all about the elimination of hierarchy. |
| 2:09.0 | And since the state tends to be the hierarchiest thing around, most anarchist activists tend to either seek the destruction of the state or at least snatches of a life lived beyond its bounds. |
| 2:19.0 | The most joyful moments in anarchist organized protests tend to be those brief, liberatory windows where anything seems possible and even say middle class suburban moms might feel briefly like they could tear down the walls of a federal courthouse. |
| 2:32.0 | So the idea of anarchists joining and fighting in a national military, commanding and being commanded in the hierarchy of a state's defense forces feels like a pretty big contradiction. |
| 2:43.0 | Yet when the Russian Federation launched a massively expanded invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, many Ukrainian anarchists announced their intention to fight on the side of their government. |
| 2:55.0 | Organizations like Rev Dia formed militias which have been integrated into Ukrainian territorial defense forces. In one statement I found on the website, enough is enough, a militant representing Rev Dia explained their feelings this way. |
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