Interview with a Pretendian | Pretendians #1
What Is Happening Here | Canadaland Investigates
Canadaland
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 14 May 2024
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Why do people pretend to be Native? Hosts Robert Jago (Kwantlen First Nation and Nooksack Indian Tribe) Angel Ellis (Muscogee (Creek) Nation) begin their journey by asking someone who has been doing just that.
He’s not just your average imposter – "Grand Chief" Guillaume Carle is the king of the “pretendians", a French Canadian who made a small fortune creating his own fake First Nation and issuing phony Indian Status Cards to thousands of other identity thieves.
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| 0:00.0 | Canada Land, funded by you. |
| 0:04.0 | Hello and welcome to Pretendians. |
| 0:06.0 | This is a show where we talk about people who impersonate us natives and explain why they're doing it and who it hurts. |
| 0:12.0 | Hestjestongo, Angel Ellis, Jeho Jifkidos. |
| 0:15.0 | Hello, I'm Angel Ellis, a writer and a citizen of the Muskogee Creek Nation located in Oklahoma. |
| 0:21.0 | Are we doing that? |
| 0:22.0 | Yeah, you got to get all secret with it. |
| 0:25.0 | I think. |
| 0:28.0 | Is why El Tezayaya, Robert Jago Desqui. |
| 0:30.0 | My name is Robert Jago, and I'm a writer from the Quand First Nation and Nuxaki Indian tribe in the Pacific Northwest. |
| 0:35.9 | So this show is all about pretendians, pretend Indians. |
| 0:40.0 | It's a pretty new term and I know that even a lot of native people don't know it. |
| 0:44.3 | It's like one of the social media things that's kind of taken over and got into the press. |
| 0:48.0 | So many people pretend to be Indian. |
| 0:50.0 | You will not believe how many of these fakers are out there. We found |
| 0:54.3 | Pretendians in Hollywood, Pretendians in government, even Pretendians in |
| 0:58.1 | prison, and every episode will tell you a wild story about who they hoaxed and what they got away with. |
| 1:05.0 | Robert, off the top of your mind, who are some of the pretendians that you can think of? |
| 1:09.0 | Do you know who Rachel Dolezal is? |
| 1:11.0 | Maybe? |
| 1:12.0 | Rachel Dolez is? Maybe? |
| 1:12.6 | Rachel Dolezol, the NAACP chapter leader accused of lying about her race. |
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