Dynamic Voices for a diverse church. This is Pass the Mic.

Greetings and God bless. Welcome to another episode of Pastamike Dynamic Voices for a

diverse church. I am your host Tyler Burns and we also have Jamar Tisbee on the line,

hey Jamar.

I never know what to say.

I want to sound cool, but I always sound not cool.

But you know, I almost called you Dr.

Jamar Tisby.

And I know, is that a little bit premature?

It's a little premature, maybe four or five years premature.

I feel I feel like you're a doctor with an A not an OR but with a doctor.

Well we do have a real doctor with us today. Exactly, right?

We also have on the line Dr. Vincent Baycoat,

and we've had him on the show before

to talk about his book, The Political Disciple,

which is amazing.

And if you haven't heard that go look that

podcast up Dr. Baycoat how are you? Good you know this talk about doctors

and how long things take, you know, these long roads are, they're journeys to remember.

This is my right way.

Yes, sorry.

Well, Jamar, why don't you get into what we're going to talk about today?

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