Of Christmas as long, long ago is my new book arriving for the 2025 Christmas season.

Find out what Christmas was like centuries ago.

Sneak preview, it was weird, and spooky, and rowdy.

Kind of gross sometimes.

Find it wherever books are sold in hardcover from Lions Press and audiobook from recorded books. It's Christmas as you've never

seen it before, and it makes a great gift. Hey, it's Brian, dropping by once more to keep the

countdown going to the kickoff of the Christmas Pass 2025 main season on Thanksgiving Day.

That's less than a week from now, if you're listening in real time.

Whether you've been following along since October, or just dropping in now, or even listening

from the future, I'm glad to have you along for the ride. I hope you're as excited as I am to

share another season together.

It'll be our 10th one as one big happy Christmas past family. There's lots of new fun and

surprises in store this year, as well as most of the stuff you're expecting. This is another one of

those years where the season is painfully short. There can be as many as 33, and as few as 27 days

between Thanksgiving and Christmas, and this year, it's only 28. It's going to go by quickly,

so we'll have to make the most of the time we have together. Today's episode will be the

last of the pre-season. Over the past several weeks, I've been bringing you stories as well as interviews with authors leading the conversation about Christmas today, including today's guest.

Bon Joy has a doctorate in history.

Her work focuses on how popular culture both creates and responds to the world around it.

Her latest book is Selling

Out Santa, Hollywood Films in the Age of McCarthy. I recently caught up with Dr. Joy for an

eye-opening conversation about some of our most beloved Christmas movies and the cultural and

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