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Welcome to another episode of Pass the Mic.

Dynamic Voices for a Diverse Church powered by the Witness,

a Black Christian collective.

I'm your host Tyler Burns.

You can follow me on Twitter at Burns 23 follow at your own risk.

And it's just me today on this episode, bringing you an important conversation with a special

guest. But before we get into that, I want to thank all of you for your

feedback, your helpful feedback, and even pushback on our last episode the myth of the absent Black Father.

It was an extremely personal episode for Jamar myself and it was definitely something

that affected many of you are listeners as well.

So to everyone who's given feedback publicly and

privately along with telling their personal stories giving their thoughts we

honor you and your contribution to this vitally important conversation. We also plan to have a follow-up to this vitally important conversation.

We also plan to have a follow-up to this episode

in the near future, so stay tuned for that.

Now to get into today's topic,

before we get into our conversation,

I just want to frame the topic for you.

Now everyone in a black family knows this phenomenon.

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