All right, welcome back. And our guest is Ken Block, and the book is Disproven,

my unbiased search for voter fraud in the Trump campaign, the data that shows why he lost,

and how we can improve our elections. And we're going to spend a lot of time on election reform,

not so much about litigating 2020. He's got a lot to say. How did he get involved in this? Well, he is

president of a software systems company, Sympatico, software engineer and entrepreneur,

specializes in database technologies and groundbreaking projects such as the country's first statewide debit card benefit system.

And in Texas, he saved them a billion dollars off of the fraud and waste and their SNAP programs.

But he said he wasn't really interested in getting involved in politics, but, you know, sometimes we find that politics is interested in us.

In the past decade, he's analyzed voter data from more than 40 states.

The few that he has yet to analyze do not provide their data to the public.

He has served as an expert and legal challenges that involve voting data,

voter fraud, and election integrity. So we'll talk to him about all of these things and about what he

has learned as he investigates us. What can we do to make sure that we have honest elections that are

not going to be contested? Thank you for joining us, sir. Thanks for having me.

It's very important because a lot of people are very concerned about this, and rightfully so.

A lot of people are ready to have a revolution if the candidate that they think should win, does not win.

And in an equally divided country like this, Half the people are pretty much feeling that way.

I saw that your foreword was written by Brad Raffensberger,

the Georgia Secretary of State, that, you know, again over the weekend,

I talked about this at beginning of the program.

Trump was furious at Governor Kemp.

He didn't talk about Raffinsberger, but they have in the past. And so,

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