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The David Knight Show

INTERVIEW "The Fall of the FBI": FBI Veteran Says "Threat to Democracy"

The David Knight Show

David Knight

News, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Politics

4.6765 Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Thomas J. Baker, with 33 years of experience as an FBI Special Agent is the author of "The Fall of the FBI: How a Once Great Agency Became a Threat to Democracy," which offers the roadmap for reforming the FBI and restoring the culture by restoring the confidence of the general public.

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0:00.0

Joining us now is Thomas J. Baker. He's an FBI agent with three, three years of experience

0:09.8

as a special agent at the FBI. And he wrote a book that was released as recently as December.

0:16.0

The Fall of the FBI, How a Once Great Agency, Became became a threat to democracy. And I think that's

0:22.9

why many of us see it at this point with the recent developments. And so I want to talk to him

0:27.6

about what is happening with the Christopher Ray issues, as well as the Durham issues, the hearings

0:33.8

that we just had in the last week or so. Thank you for joining us, Mr. Baker.

0:39.2

Good to be with you, David.

0:39.7

Thank you.

0:41.6

Tell us a little bit about, first of all,

0:44.2

when you saw these hearings with Christopher Ray,

0:47.5

give us your opinion your take on this.

0:51.9

Well, the hearing with Christopher Ray about a week and a half ago now was quite frankly, in my opinion, a missed opportunity.

0:56.1

He could have come forward and said he recognized the cultural problems in the FBI

1:01.0

that he was going to reform it. It was a missed opportunity for him because he didn't say that.

1:07.1

He again hid behind the chant that they come out with all the time about the good, hardworking

1:13.6

38,000 people in the FBI. Nobody's disputing that. It's like the old saying people used to say

1:20.6

about certain ethnic or racial groups, you know, some of my best friends are. That's how this

1:26.6

chance has become.

1:28.6

So he missed an opportunity to clear the air.

1:32.2

And I must say, unfortunately, the Congress, the House Committee, missed an opportunity.

1:37.0

I don't want to be too harsh on them.

1:39.2

Jim Jordan's doing the best he can.

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