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Young Heretics

Interview: Teresa Mull, Professional Woke-Proofer

Young Heretics

Spencer Klavan

Society & Culture, Education

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Do you even pray, bro? Teresa Mull is the assistant editor of The Spectator World. Her book, Woke-Proof Your Life, offers practical and concrete suggestions for opponents of the woke revolution to put their money where their mouths are. Spencer talks with Teresa about how families and single people alike can suit their actions to their words, and their words to their actions. Plus: some reflections on the definition of wokeness itself.

Check out Teresa's book: https://a.co/d/550uQq2

Find Teresa's writing at The Spectator World: https://thespectator.com/author/teresa-mull/

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're going to see. you're Welcome back to Young Hertics Conversations. This is the interview series. Every Friday I like to sit down with somebody,

0:38.2

either that I've met through personal connections or somebody who's book I've read that I just thought was doing interesting

0:44.1

stuff in the world. One of the things I've tried to emphasize a lot especially as

0:47.9

we did that series on the virtues was action, taking action, doing things in the world when it comes to especially ethical virtues,

0:57.6

that is excellences of the soul that have to do with loving the good, the good there's always a question of like what

1:05.3

do I do how do I act the stuff out how do I put into practice all the things that I believe and

1:11.9

that is exactly why I wanted to have Theresa Mull on.

1:15.5

So Theresa has written a book called Woke Proof Your Life, which is exactly what it says in the title

1:21.3

an incredibly practical but also thoughtful and theoretical at a high-level book about

1:26.6

our cultural revolution. I mean I'm not sure that people who listen to this show really need

1:32.3

me to rehearse at this point, all the evidence and instances of what wokeness is.

1:38.0

There have been some online flame wars over whether the idea can even be defined, of course it can of course we all know

1:44.9

what's going on around us I would describe it as a cultural Marxist takeover of

1:50.2

America's major institutions with concrete ramifications for individuals if they think or

1:56.7

act in ways that are disapproved of by the regime.

2:00.1

So that's what I would call Wokeness you could give a bunch of other

2:02.6

accounts and definitions of it people have written whole books about it but the main thing

2:05.8

is it's here it's a new public faith a new public morality and people especially

2:11.9

Christians Jews as well really anybody with a traditional outlook,

2:16.6

are, you know, we're all having to think about how to navigate this new world, how to live

2:22.3

in such a way that we don't betray our principles or compromise

2:25.7

and yet are able to get by, raise kids, live a healthy life, work at jobs, all of that stuff. And it is possible, it can be done, but it actually now

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