All right, welcome back and we do have Jack Lawson on the line now.

Again, Jack Lawson's books, civildefense manual.com.

That's where you can find these, volumes one and two.

He only sells it in book format and he only sells them together because you've got to get the full picture.

And he wants to make sure that if you have to use them because you've got to get the full picture and he wants to make

sure that if you have to use them, you will be able to use them because if you don't have

internet or you don't have your computer up and operating, you'll still have the book that's there.

Thank you for joining us, Jack.

Good to talk to you again.

It's always good to listen to you. Oh, thank you. A voice of sanity in a world of insanity.

Well, they got pretty crazy last week with, you know, we started seeing this civil war in Russia.

And of course, the consequences of that, you know, they just keep pushing, pushing, pushing.

And you wonder if somebody there, like Putin is going to freak out and push a button and start a nuclear war. So that's why I wanted to get you on. I thought

it was a great idea for us to talk about that because you have so many different chapters in

these two volumes here talking about all kinds of things. I was just talking about how they want

to ban food, for example. You talk about how we can save food, make sure you got water for emergencies

and other things. But also, you know, there's things there like preparing for a nuclear attack.

And there, you've drawn on the expertise of a lot of individual contributors as well as your own

experience. And you've had considerable experience as a soldier and survival situations.

But let's talk a little bit about the nuclear aspect and what individuals can do about that if something like that happens.

Well, first, David, I'd like to say that I doubt any button being pushed is going to come from Vladimir Putin.

I often have thought of P.T. Barnum and Barnum and Bailey Circus. I suppose the guy had

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