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Interview - 'Suicidal Empathy': Gad Saad On Immigration, Gender & The Future Of The West

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🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Is there such a thing as having too much ⁠empathy⁠? That's a theory gaining the support of some of the world’s richest people following the release of a new book by Gad Saad, a Canadian marketing professor and frequent critic of liberal policies. Saad is an evolutionary psychologist, professor at the University of Mississippi, host of The Saad Truth podcast, and author of the No. 1 New York Times bestselling book Suicidal Empathy, where he argues that Western societies are embracing forms of empathy and compassion that can ultimately become self-destructive. We dive into the ideas that have made him both influential and controversial: immigration, gender, identity, culture, free speech, and what he sees as larger changes happening across the West. Some listeners may strongly agree with Gad. Others may take major issue with his framing, philosophy and conclusions. But these are ideas increasingly shaping conversations—especially on the political right—and we thought it was worth digging into them directly. Please note: Parts of this discussion include provocative examples and references to sexual violence that some listeners may find difficult.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, it's Moe. Welcome back to the Mo News podcast.

0:06.7

Today, a conversation with one of the more provocative and from any controversial voices in

0:11.9

today's debates around culture, identity, and the future of Western society.

0:15.7

You might have seen that the number one book on the New York Times bestseller list is the book

0:19.3

Suicidal Empathy. It's a book by

0:21.3

Gad Sad. He's a professor at the University of Mississippi. He's an evolutionary psychologist,

0:25.2

the host of the Sad Truth podcast, and the author of that bestselling book. And it is a book

0:30.5

that has sparked significant political debate. Suicidal empathy is a cultural and psychological

0:35.4

concept describing a state where someone or a society has

0:39.7

misdirected empathy that overrides rational thought, self-preservation, and societal stability.

0:46.0

Essentially, the phenomenon is you have such empathy for someone.

0:49.6

It is coming at the expense of yourself, your health, and your society.

0:54.5

That's an issue that God has been exploring for a while now on his social media platforms,

0:59.7

on his podcast, and he's put that all together in this new book, Suicidal Empathy.

1:05.2

We spoke to Gad just a couple weeks ago from his home in Canada, but his story begins

1:08.8

much earlier.

1:09.7

He grew up a Lebanese Jew,

1:11.6

lived through the Lebanese Civil War before eventually leaving the country, an experience that

1:15.6

shaped his worldview. We discussed a bit of that in the podcast. But then we get to the core

1:20.5

discussion here. What is suicidal empathy and why he believes it's bringing down certain countries

1:26.7

in the Western world.

1:27.8

It cuts at issues like gender, immigration, culture, identity, religion,

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