Hey guys, welcome back to Young Herritix Conversations.

This is our Friday interview series on Tuesday.

I like to talk with dead people and on Friday I like to talk with people who are alive.

What I mean by that is that our regular Tuesday episodes are a survey through the great works of the Western

Canon broadly understood for its thousands of years of existence, and so it is our privilege and our delight to be among the secret society of the great men and women of the past and the best that has been thought and said, but the

present matters too.

It matters urgently.

And so on Fridays I like to talk with people that I admire, whose work is giving me hope that I've profited from and benefited from and of no one is that more true than my guest today Stephen C Meyer. So if you've read Meyer's book, The Return of the God Hypothesis, you know what a terrific

writer he is.

If you haven't read it, you really should.

And you also will probably be able to gather a lot of what I have

to say about science kind of comes from or profits from benefits from and draws on the

work of Stephen who is a much more accomplished historian of science than I in fact that's what his PhD is in from the University of Cambridge

Well, I guess actually his PhD is in the philosophy of science, but the Return of the God hypothesis as well as Darwin's doubt and signature in the cell are all books that deal with both the philosophy and history of science in very lucid clear terms.

And as his title suggests, Stephen is making the argument that a mind that is a

creator and a theistic interpretation of the data makes the most sense in fact is

probably the only thing that makes sense of what scientists have been discovering for most of the history of science and especially in the last, say, 50 to 100 years.

So that's what we're going to talk with him about today. In some ways you can think of this as like an expert follow-on from some of the stuff that we've been talking about about quantum physics on the show and stuff like that here. But first I want to tell you about my sponsor

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