All right, joining us now is Todd Myers.

He is director of the Center for Environment at the Washington Policy Center.

He is in Seattle, Washington, and there is an amazing thing that is happening there, but just

as an introduction, he has written for

the Wall Street Journal, the BBC, The National Review, Seattle Times, USA Today, been on numerous

news networks, including CNBC, Fox News, and CNN. In his wife, Maria, live in the foothills of the Cascade

Mountains in Washington State. Good for you. That sounds like a

beautiful place with 100,000 honeybees. And he's been busy as a bee himself. And he has an amazing

story coming from this left-wing state and what they're trying to do to keep some environmental

legislation in place. Thank you for joining us, Todd.

Nice to chat with you. Thank you. Tell us, first of all, about this initiative to repeal a climate commitment act. Tell us what the Climate Commitment Act is. Well, people are probably

familiar than in California, and maybe they're familiar with

Quebec, have what's called a cap and trade system for CO2 emissions. So Washington passed a similar

law in 2001 that just took effect in 2023, where we have a cap on total CO2 emissions and then we charge and people have

to buy allowances for CO2 essentially a tax there's a tax on CO2 and so it's very similar to what's

happening in California so that's what's called the Climate Commitment Act it's just as simply a

CO2 cap and trade system. So we passed that.

Like I said, it just went into effect in 2023. Governor Inslee, who constantly talks about how he's

sort of the climate governor, and this is his big priority, said it wouldn't have much of an impact.

It would cost about the pennies he said

pennies uh of on a gallon gasoline uh we did the math and we said well no it's like it's actually

going to cost more like 46 cents a gallon and he said we were wrong uh in fact it ended up being

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