Hi, hello and welcome. You're listening to the Not the Top 20 podcast. We're sponsored by Betfair.

This is a Monday episode. I'm Ali Maxwell and I'm currently in Lake Bled, Slovenia.

And I'm George Ellick and I'm currently in the United States of America.

Putting the holiday in bank holiday, but we were never going to let Monday pass by unpodded.

So for your delight today, we have two very interesting interviews that we think you are going to

get a lot out of. We'd like to

recap the weekend action over the next few days, but have to be honest and open with you guys.

There's no guarantee. This isn't my first cricket tour. This isn't George's first golf trip.

We're old and wise enough to know that sometimes you need a bit of runway,

shall we say, when you come in to land. So interviews, George, we've done one each. Now,

you've been intrigued by the Crawley story for some time now, understanding that the response,

reaction and some of the concerns towards the approach, funding plans of new

ownership group Wagmi United, but keen to dig beyond surface level and just find out a bit

more substance. And that's how you approached your interview this week. Yeah, exactly. I think

it's impossible for any EFL fan not to be intrigued is the right word when it comes to the ownership of Crawley Town from Wagby United.

A lot of mention of NFTs and cryptocurrencies, which isn't a world that I know a great deal about and maybe some red flags cropping up when that happened.

And then what's the opposite of red flags?

Some green flags.

When you see the appointment of two very well, well respected coaches in Damachichi and Kevin Betsy as manager, when you see the recruitment of Dominic Telfords. And then last week,

the appointment of Chris Galley from Statsbom as their new director of football. So

it seems to me like they are making smart decisions and a football basis on the pitch. It's

been pretty mixed. So intriguing times going on at Crawley and I was able to track down

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