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What Really Happened?

Interview Series: MARYUM ALI

What Really Happened?

Andrew Jenks

Society & Culture

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

After receiving a shocking voicemail a few months ago, Jenks's What Really Happened? journey comes full circle on this episode, as he sits down for an enlightening conversation with Maryum Ali, daughter of the great Muhammad Ali, to discuss the very first episode of of WRH?, "The Talk", about the time Muhammad Ali talked a 21-year-old out of committing suicide. During the interview, Maryum tells Jenks about her dad’s approach to life, growing up with “The Greatest” as her father, and ultimately, what really happened when Joseph almost jumped. Afterwards, Jenks chats with Irish What Really Happened? listener, Nick Quinn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

This phone message may be one of the best I've ever received.

0:04.5

Well, Mr. Janks, you will be surprised that who is calling you are woke up and turned over.

0:11.7

I saw this podcast, popped on my phone before I got up and I'm like, hmm, a podcast about my dad.

0:19.3

Let me see what this is about. Let me see who's claiming they know what really happened.

0:23.9

My name is Mariam Ali. I'm the oldest daughter of Muhammad Ali.

0:29.2

I was cringing a little bit when I listened to the podcast that I heard so many people think they know what my dad is made of and who he is.

0:38.6

But you know, you seem to try to do reporting and come up with a theory about that.

0:43.8

That attempted suicide by the man named Joseph, but any who.

0:50.0

I want to give you a call because I do know what really happened.

0:56.1

As you know, we have a toll free number you can dial into, give feedback or tips and reaction to any of our what really happened episodes.

1:04.0

And a few months back when I heard that message, I was speechless.

1:08.5

Mariam Ali was reacting to the first episode we ever did on this podcast titled The Talk.

1:15.8

I recommend checking it out if you have some time since it will only add more context to my interview with her.

1:22.0

Here's a quick reminder of what the episode was all about.

1:26.8

First, I had been working on this story for years.

1:31.4

It took place on January 19, 1981 in Los Angeles.

1:36.0

A man named Joseph didn't want to live anymore.

1:39.4

He was threatening to jump off the ninth floor of an office building.

1:43.6

For a couple of hours, multiple people tried to talk Joseph down, a priest, a psychiatrist and the LAPD.

1:51.1

But no luck.

1:52.6

As the minutes turned into hours, about 200 people gathered and looked up, waiting to see what would happen.

2:00.2

And then, like Superman, Muhammad Ali showed up, wearing a pristine suit, the LAPD allowed him up the nine floors.

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