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What Really Happened?

Interview Series: FULTON ARMSTRONG and THE CUBAN SOUND MYSTERY

What Really Happened?

Andrew Jenks

Society & Culture

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2019

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Since our Season 2 episode, "The Secret Sonic War", the main question remains: what really happened in Cuba? Reporting on this topic has continued in the New York Times, USA Today, The New Yorker, CNN, and many other outlets. But, Jenks believes he may now have the answer. This episode also features two special guests, and WRH? listeners, Marie Mayhew and Alik Eleyjian. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

So today's interview is with the endlessly fascinating,

0:07.2

Fulton Armstrong.

0:09.2

Fulton was a CIA analyst for years and was considered one of the top minds on anything related to Cuba.

0:15.5

Frankly, just a personal opinion, I think he still is.

0:18.1

He's worked in Mexico all over Central America and encountering narcotics at the National Security Council,

0:24.4

National Intelligence Council, CIA, and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

0:29.6

Like I said, he is fascinating.

0:33.0

Here's a compilation of some of his classic sound bites from this interview just to get you a little excited.

0:39.6

I can't go into too much detail.

0:41.4

You have to do a full-fledged application.

0:44.3

They do psychological assessments, rigorous polygraphs.

0:48.0

The public doesn't know that all intelligence is a conflicted product.

0:52.6

It's a game of chess.

0:54.5

And you then move your person.

0:56.3

You provoke them.

0:57.6

They provoke you.

0:59.0

But there were unwritten rules, the Americans, on FX.

1:03.2

And I watched it and I admit, as entertainment, I really enjoyed it.

1:07.0

Really?

1:07.5

TV and movies, they kill as a message.

1:10.2

Why would you kill somebody who does the same thing you are for the other team?

1:14.5

Officially, it would be a loaded word.

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