La La La La, La, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. La La La La, la, oh, friends. Hello, friends. Welcome to Reason. Greg Kokel here.

And before I get into our conversation with my guest today, just a final reminder that this is the final weekend for this season's reality.

It's in SoCal.

We had done that for many years in the fall.

Now we're doing it in the spring.

So we kind of missed last fall and put it at the end of the schedule.

But I just want you to know that we're rocking and rolling.

And last I heard, we had about 1,600 signups.

We have room for many more.

It's going to be a great session.

Final session with Jay Warner Wallace, by the way.

I talked with him the other night, and he's just overwhelmed with new projects and with grandchildren.

So he will not be with us as a standard for subsequent sessions.

We are thrilled to have had him part of our program for so many years, but this is your last time to see him in this venue.

And by the way, he's not doing a lot in other places either.

So if it were just for Jim, that would be a good reason to sign up for our Friday night all

day Saturday, reality student apologetics conference.

But it's not just Jim.

It's Jason Jim.'s Jason Jimenez,

and Sean McDowell, and Tripp and Megan Allman, and the rest of the stand-a-reason team.

And I will actually be doing a presentation on Friday night on the main stage.

I don't get to do that very often.

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