In this bonus episode Brian and Dan Ramirez (Heroes of Noise podcast) talk with Robert Kerbeck about his memoir Ruse: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street We talk about his time as a corporate spy and his time as a successful actor. He went from making $8 an hour to millions as a corporate spy but as an actor spent time with Paul Newman, Jennifer Lopez, George Clooney and even worked with O.J. Simpson a week before the murders. So much in this book and some things we didn't even get to touch on like his time with George Lucas in Tokyo. An unreal story and an amazing memoir that I highly recommend you own. Please head over to RobertKerbeck.com to get your hands on Ruse: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street. BUY NOW! In the world of high finance, multibillion-dollar Wall Street banks greedily guard their secrets. Enter Robert Kerbeck, a working actor who made his real money lying on the phone, charming people into revealing their employers’ most valuable information. In this exhilarating memoir that will appeal to fans of The Wolf of Wall Street and Catch Me If You Can, unsuspecting receptionists, assistants, and bigshot executives all fall victim to “the Ruse.” After college, Kerbeck rushed to New York to try to make it as an actor. But to support himself, he’d need a survival job, and before he knew it, while his pals were waiting tables, he began his apprenticeship as a corporate spy. As his acting career started to take off, he found himself hobnobbing with Hollywood luminaries: drinking with Paul Newman, taking J.Lo to a Dodgers game, touring E.R. sets with George Clooney. He even worked with O.J. Simpson the week before he became America’s most notorious double murderer. Before long, however, his once-promising acting career slowed while the corporate espionage business took off. The ruse job was supposed to have been temporary, but Kerbeck became one of the world’s best practitioners of this deceptive—and illegal—trade. His income jumped from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars a year. Until the inevitable crash…Kerbeck shares the lies he told, the celebrities he screwed (and those who screwed him), the cons he ran, and the money he made—and lost—along the way. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices