All right, and we are back and joining us now is Jack Lawson.

As I was saying before the break, Civil Defense Manual.

It's sold as a two-volume set because there's a lot of different topics in here.

And you need to get the bigger picture with all this.

I've had Jack Lawson on many times it's been

a while since he's been on but i remember one of the first times i had him on he was talking about

supply chain disruptions and it was before uh everything got locked down and we saw all the

supply chain disruptions and he was stressing the fact that you have this in your supply chain.

You've got the, you know, we have just in time supply delivery.

And we got these long lines of supply get broken in one particular place.

And it's going to shut everything down.

And we've been living that for the last three years.

So joining us now is Jack Lawson.

And I want to give you a little bit of an idea of his background.

Thank you for joining us, Jack.

Thank you.

It's always good to talk to you and listen to that golden voice.

Well, thank you very much.

By the way, it's civil defense manual.com is the website. And we'll put that back up as we talked to

Jack. You'll see that there. Jack, how did you tell people a little bit about your experience?

I know that you've had experience as a soldier. I know that you've got a lot of countries.

It's not just your experience, which is vast in all of this stuff, But you've also got the, you've got other people

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