Joining us now is Jack Lawson.

He has civil defense manual.com.

Always great to talk to Jack.

And I wanted to talk to Jack again because we see a lot of trouble spots being escalated.

We've got a lot of infrastructure issues.

And, of course, infrastructure was the very first thing.

He and I talked about years ago. Thanks for joining us, you hear me yes i can okay thanks for having me out again

david okay thank you for coming on uh yeah let's talk a little bit about uh you you sent some clips

and uh of some things that we can pull up and i've i've got those now so we've got a little bit of technical issues that have, I think we're getting them

squared away.

Tell us what's your concern right now as we look at the global and domestic situations.

What's your major concern in terms of preparation and threat?

Well, my major concern is the drum I've been beating for some probably close to 50 years

and that is that uh americans are ill prepared they're totally under prepared for any kind of

disruption as i've gone through five some decades of this, it's gotten more heightened because of the

obvious issue of a reliance on technology. It's just, to me, that's one of the biggest issues.

There's a number of issues. I can't even go over them all i mean we

got a border but we don't have a border you know it's uh it's not even a line in the sand anymore

maybe a fence there but uh people think it's a cattle fence or whatever keep the sheep in from

going to go on south to to Mexico to Cancun.

It's, you know, there are myriad of issues to me that any one of which could cause us and well cause us problem.

One of the biggest, I've got a good friend. He deals in this. We use 4,000

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