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🗓️ 23 November 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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In this episode, I had the opportunity to speak with Natalie Robehmed, the host of "Allison After NXIVM," where we explored the complex and troubling journey of Allison Mack, best known for her role on "Smallville." We discussed how Allison, initially seeking personal growth, became deeply involved in the NXIVM cult led by Keith Raniere, ultimately leading to her participation in harmful practices. Natalie shared her unique experience of gaining access to Allison after her release from federal prison, revealing a remorseful and introspective side of her that contrasts sharply with the villainous image portrayed in the media.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Natalie Robehmed and NXIVM
00:05:30 - Allison Mack's Background
00:10:00 - Accessing Allison Mack
00:25:00 - Understanding the Women of NXIVM
00:45:00 - Allison's Relationship with her husband
00:55:00 - Allison's Prison Experience
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| 0:00.0 | All right, Natalie Robamed is here. |
| 0:10.7 | She is the host of the new podcast, Allison After Nexium. |
| 0:16.0 | If this is sort of, because we need a refresh from you, Natalie. |
| 0:20.4 | Nexium Colt and the documentary The Bow that everyone watched because we were sort of, you know, |
| 0:26.4 | in the pandemic in 2020 on HBO. |
| 0:29.0 | I mean, it was so good. |
| 0:30.0 | Multi-part series. |
| 0:31.2 | They did a follow-up. |
| 0:32.4 | I had never really even heard of like Keith Reniery and this whole cult. |
| 0:35.8 | I don't think a lot of people had. |
| 0:38.2 | And then this documentary drops. And since then, these well-known actresses, a billionaire from Seagram's, |
| 0:45.1 | you know, ginger ale arrested and gone to jail. But Allison Mack is really the subject of your |
| 0:52.6 | new podcast. And of course, many people know her as an |
| 0:55.6 | actress for a decade on Smallville. On Smallville. Exactly. So, yes, Alison Mack, before she was best |
| 1:03.0 | known for Nexium, which was the sex cult run by Keith Reneery based in Albany in upstate New York, |
| 1:10.8 | Allison Mack, prior to that was best known for Smallville, this long-running TV show of |
| 1:16.3 | kind of Superman's origin stories on the CW. |
| 1:19.0 | And she kind of played Clark Kent's best friend, and she's this perky blonde and green-eyed |
| 1:24.3 | and very bushy-tailed sort of person. |
| 1:28.3 | And, you know, in 2006, she took her first workshop with what was thought to be a self-help group in Vancouver. |
| 1:37.3 | She actually heard about the workshop from her co-star on Smallville, Kristen Krook, who... |
| 1:43.3 | Which, by the way, when people Google, gorgeous, stunning, on Smallville as well, |
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