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All right friends great vocal here stand a reason in

and we're going to devote this entire hour to conversation with a dear friend and

someone who's had a tremendous impact on the body of Christ for a long time.

She's the author of Love by Vibody. She is the author of Saving Leonardo and

finding truth and famously total truth, all award-winning bestselling books.

Noted by Christianity today is one of the five top women apologists in the country.

Of course I'm talking about Professor Nancy Pierci and in my view Nancy you are the number one

woman apologist in the country so you got the top votes for me so glad to have you on board.

Thanks so much and thanks for that compliment I appreciate it.

Yeah I think the last time we were actually together other than this time on screen here was

when we were in Israel together in 2019 what I want an amazing trip and it was just great to

kind of sit in the bus together or was it traveling around and comparing notes and it just it

was really a fabulous opportunity to get to know you better and I really enjoyed that.

I want to start this book with the way you started it. This book we're talking about is the toxic

war on masculinity, subtitle how Christianity reconciles the sexes. It is in a certain sense

I don't want to say a controversial book so much but a controversial topic clearly which I think

why is why you write the book and just so you know I'm not the only one on my team that has read

this book you get rave reviews from everybody there's the bearded beast over there. Kyle he's

given a thumbs up and Amy's halfway through when she's really really enjoying it and I the same.

It's a complex book though because it's a complex issue so we're going to hit some of these things

out. I want to start the way you start the book and your first words the first line and I

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