all right i think we have uh james bovard joining us now i think we've been able to make

connection can you hear me mr bovart yeah i can hear you sorry for the delay on my side no problem no

problem things happen it's uh great to have you on uh james bovart his introduction in case you don't know

james he's been around for quite a while and writing many, many books. How many books have you written? I talked about one. Ten so far. And you're still working on him. I love the one I talked about earlier, attention deficit democracy. I love that title. And of course, you're always writing for various publications,

the Mezes Institute, a libertarian. You wrote a write on all things political and economic. And so

it's great to have you on. And I wanted to talk earlier in the show, I talked about biometrics, and you just recently had an article about

facial recognition and things like that. I talked about a case where someone was arrested and

jailed simply on that. They always talk about how biometric surveillance and identification

is just going to be a starter into their process, but of course, we've seen that it's worked out very differently.

It's extending in so many different ways. I think your article was about TSA, wasn't it?

Yeah, I've smacked TSA around a lot over the last 20 years.

They deserve it. They've smacked us around a lot whenever I've put.

That's true. I mean, hey, it's payback, you know?

That's right. I'm just trying to settle my debts from those airport checkpoints.

Yeah, so this is on the TSA facial surveillance.

TSA is starting to set up all these.

They have set up a bunch of places and airports where people check in by having their face scanned.

And it's on a trial basis now.

But the TSA is probably going to try to mandate that nationwide sometime later this year.

Yeah, it's always this mission creep, isn't it?

And creeps who are patting us down and all the rest of the stuff.

When I was in Texas, they had the house put in and passed it unanimous.

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