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From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle.

Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, the place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking.

Without all that hysterical nonsense, you find everywhere else. I'm your host, Isaac Saul. And on today's episode, I'm thrilled to be sitting down with Michael McDonald.

Michael is a professor at the University of Florida and an

elections expert. He runs the website, electproject.org, and is the author of the book from

pandemic to insurrection voting in the 2020 presidential election. For a lot of people in the

media and election space, including myself, Michael has been an essential following on Twitter and his

website is hugely helpful in scouring some of the election data from across the country,

election laws, basically, you know, anything and everything that has to do with U.S.

elections, which we're going to jump into today. Michael, thanks so much for coming on the show.

Oh, great to be with you, Isaac.

So we were sort of talking before we punched record here, and there's, I mean, it's midterm

season, so there's so much going on to talk about. Normally, you've got a book out that I want

to chat about because I think we have some similar interests in the kind of, you know, the

election fraud, big lie, quote-unquote space.

But before you jump in, you know, I love kind of hearing guest stories.

I mean, I'm curious how you got into the political data, election law world.

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