INTERVIEW: Michael Dorf and Neil Buchanan talk with Isaac about the debt ceiling.
Tangle
Isaac Saul
4.8 • 672 Ratings
🗓️ 20 June 2023
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Today, we are talking with Michael Dorf and Neil Buchanan. Michael is a Law Professor and Scholar of U.S. Constitutional Law who currently serves as the Robert S. Stevens Professor of Law at Cornell Law School. Neil is an Economist, Legal Scholar, and Professor currently working as a Professor of Law at University of Florida - Levin College of Law. Both are considered leading experts on the U.S. debt ceiling.
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Today’s clickables: Intro: 00:00 Explaining the basics of the debt ceiling (02:13), Is the debt ceiling effective or even necessary? (05:27), The "least unconstitutional option" (12:04), Breaching the debt ceiling v default (16:40), The 14th Amendment argument: (25:46) Could are credit rating be downgraded again? (29:54), Should we end the debt ceiling? (33:56) Where you can find more from Michael and Neil (36:51)
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| 0:31.9 | Hey everybody, Isaac here. |
| 0:34.1 | I just want to give you a quick heads up. |
| 0:35.9 | Today is not a typical weekday podcast. |
| 0:40.0 | Instead of a reading and riff on the day's newsletter, |
| 0:44.1 | we are actually going to be bringing you a special edition. |
| 0:47.6 | An interview I did a couple weeks ago with an economist and a legal scholar |
| 0:52.2 | about the debt ceiling and about our debt and about some |
| 0:56.3 | arguments for and against the debt ceiling. It is a part of a laundry list of interviews that |
| 1:02.8 | we have been doing both for our podcast and our YouTube channel and also in some cases for |
| 1:07.9 | our newsletter. Our podcast editor, John, is taking a little bit of a vacation. He's |
| 1:13.7 | abroad right now. And we have somebody tagging in for him for the rest of the week, but we couldn't |
| 1:19.1 | find a sub for today. So given that, we thought it would be a fun day to bring you a nice, |
| 1:25.0 | different podcast, just a little interview. And we're going to be hoping to |
| 1:28.8 | publish more of these interviews going forward in the future. So I hope you enjoy it. And we'll |
| 1:33.9 | be back here tomorrow with your regular programming. Thanks for understanding. |
| 1:41.9 | From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. |
| 1:51.3 | Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place where we share views from across the political spectrum on the big debates of the day. And then you get a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul. And today we are sitting down with Neil Buchanan and Michael Dorff. Neil is an economist, legal scholar and professor currently working as a professor of law at the University of Florida |
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