Welcome back and joining us now is Don Jeffries.

And you can find him on Substack, Donald Jeffries.

Dot substack.com, but it's also there as I protest.

And before we talk about his book, you know, I was, we did a repeat on Memorial Day.

I had this to talk about it along with some other people's comments about Memorial Day and ongoing wars.

I didn't get to that yesterday, but I want to talk about that now and begin with an excellent op-ed piece that Don wrote,

Standing Up for Peace on Memorial Day.

Thank you for joining us, Donald.

It's always a pleasure to be here, David.

Tell us a little bit about your, tell the audience about your take,

because I've got it right here in front of me, about your take on Memorial Day and on war

in general and how we, you know, part of the, what you've got here is just how we are led along with hero

worship. And I've seen this in China as well. When we went to China, I was absolutely amazed

to see all the, the Mao merchandise. The Mao merchandise. It was everywhere, everywhere.

And people were buying it, you know, commemorative stuff.

This is a guy who killed more of his own citizens than any other political leader ever in history.

And they're buying mugs and posters and all this kind of stuff.

And we do the same thing here, don't we?

Yeah, I mean, we just, and that's why, you know, my heroes don't fit in on, like, in general, Smedley Butler.

I mean, he just doesn't, one of the comments on my substack piece talking about, he was, he was tempted to bring up Smedley Butler at the family gathering on Memorial Day.

But, I mean, of the main reasons is JFK, and if you write about

the Kennedys a lot and how they really, so many people still hate the Kennedys.

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