Interview: Lord Jack McConnell

Podlitical

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Government, News

4.6 • 157 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

The former First Minister on his chats with Humza Yousaf, and how politics became "petty". The team sit down with Lord Jack McConnell, the Labour First Minister for Scotland from 2001 - 2007, where he reflects on his time in power and the state of political discourse today. Lord McConnell talks about how he sees parties lose touch with voters, how politics moved from class-based to identity-based and its consequences, and whether or not he'd accept a role in a Starmer Government if Labour is successful at the next general election.

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0:00.0	BBC Sounds
0:02.4	You're listening to BBC Scotland
0:10.0	Hi, we're listening to Podlisical BBC Scotland's podcast
0:15.8	That brings you an inside look at the biggest stories
0:18.2	coming out of Hollywood and Westminster.
0:20.4	I'm Lucy White,
0:21.0	a journalist based in Glasgow,
0:22.7	and Phil is here too. Hello, Phil
0:24.6	Sam at the Scottish Parliament, for anyone
0:26.4	unfamiliar with our programming.
0:28.7	And today we're also joined by the
0:30.4	former First Minister, Lord Jack McConnell.
0:32.6	Hello. Good afternoon
0:34.5	it is. When we're talking, I don't know when it's
0:36.6	going out, but that's where we're talking. It's definitely the afternoon. It's 10 to 3 in the afternoon. And you're
0:40.8	joining us from London. We're recording this just after Humpty Yusuf has done his program for
0:47.2	government and we're back to business at Hollywood, back to business at Westminster too.
0:51.3	I wondered, Jack, if you were watching that yesterday and what kind of
0:56.2	feelings it brought for you? Do you, do you sort of get itchy feet? Do you wish you were there
1:00.1	too? Or are you happy you're not in that position anymore? Oh, I'm never happy that I'm not in
1:05.4	power anymore, if I'm being honest, but I... You're a pretty good run if you're still in power now.
1:12.2	Exactly.
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