Yeah, you bet.

All right.

Joining us now is Guy Relford, and we've had him on several times that Guy is an attorney, as well as an NRA firearms instructor and other things like that.

But he focuses on the Second Amendment, his practices in Indiana.

And there's a couple of very interesting cases that he was directly

involved in, as well as a law in Indiana that helps to clarify what our rights are when we

have to use deadly force and self-defense. And so we want to talk about those two cases with him.

Thank you for joining us, Guy. It's always a pleasure, David.

Let's talk about this. There's a couple of different cases. Christy Phillips was one that you got

involved in. And tell us a little bit about the facts of that case and then how that got you

to get involved in changing the law. And then now you've had another second case and you've seen how important

it is that that law was changed but first tell us a little bit about christie phillips and what

happened in that particular case you bet kisti is a very heroic young lady who lives down in

southern indiana and a very small town called Rising Sun, Indiana.

And here, about four years ago, she was involved in a situation where there was a traffic stop

right in front of her house. And it being a very small town, the officer who had pulled over

this guy for suspicious activity in the neighborhood, that officer's son was actually at Kistie's house because he knew Kistee's daughter.

And so they're watching it basically as this kid's dad and their fellow community member, this police officer, had pulled this person over.

The person turned out to be on drugs, on methamphetamine, as well as other illegal drugs.

He immediately got out of the vehicle.

He's screaming profanity.

He's screaming undecipherable gibberish.

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