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The Breakfast Club

INTERVIEW: Jonathan Karl Talks New Book 'Retribution', Trump Administration, Free Speech, Biden + More

The Breakfast Club

The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts

Comedy

4.414.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Today on The Breakfast Club, Jonathan Karl Talks New Book 'Retribution', Trump Administration, Free Speech, Biden. Listen For More!

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:20.8

Hold on. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The breakfast club. We're all finished or y'all's done. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Shalameen the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lawn LaRose is here as well. And we got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed.

0:35.7

He has a new book, Retribution from Donald Trump and the campaign that changed America. John Carl, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, thanks for having me. How are you feeling? What's up, J.K., how are you? I'm doing it right. I'm doing it right. Crazy Times. This is your fourth book on Trump. Yeah. You like driving yourself crazy, huh?

0:36.4

Oh, my God.

0:39.8

I wrote one almost six years ago,

0:41.1

and I thought that would be the only one.

0:39.8

But this is... up. Yeah. You like driving yourself crazy, huh? Oh my God. I wrote one almost six years ago,

0:46.4

and I thought that would be the only one, but this is 1,500 pages on this stuff. But, you know,

0:51.6

I mean, I felt like I was watching history unfold and I saw people trying to rewrite the history as it was happening. And that's why I've, you know, I've poured

0:55.3

my heart and soul into these books. What feels different about this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

0:59.4

era of Trump. If anything, if it does feel different. I mean, it, it does. Uh, I mean, I, I, I think what's,

1:06.8

what we're seeing now is, as suggested by the subtitle of this book, it's changing America.

1:12.8

His first term was chaotic.

1:16.3

I mean, the attention of the world was on the White House.

1:19.0

There was all this controversy swirling.

1:21.2

But, you know, he left and it was done.

1:23.4

I mean, there was nothing, no real lasting impact.

1:25.8

I mean, now look what he's doing.

1:27.8

And symbolically, you could look at like tearing down the east wing, you know, paving over the Rose Garden.

1:33.3

He's changing the physical layout of the White House.

1:37.5

But our country is changing.

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