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The American Mind

Interview: John Eastman on Election Fraud

The American Mind

The Claremont Institute

Philosophy, News, Society & Culture

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2020

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

In this special installment of The American Mind Podcast, Ryan Williams, President of The Claremont Institute, interviews Dr. John Eastman. The two discuss Dr. Eastman’s experience navigating legal battles in the wake of the 2020 election.

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The Wow. Well, I'm very happy to welcome Claremont Institute Senior Fellow and Founding Director of

0:30.5

our Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence, John Eastman.

0:33.3

John, you don't have much time, you're a very busy man these days, but I wanted to get your

0:37.2

update on the election lawsuits and the general state of play.

0:41.2

For those that don't know know you recently represented in your

0:43.9

personal capacity Donald Trump in his joining of the Texas lawsuit the Supreme

0:48.9

Court denied to take that up last Friday so where are we with all this? Well a couple of things. One, there are still

0:56.3

several cases pending in a number of states, both pending with cert petitions at the Supreme

1:01.4

Court from a case out of Pennsylvania and cert petitions out of Georgia.

1:06.2

There are still pending litigation I think that could be outcome determinative in both Wisconsin and Michigan.

1:13.0

Some will argue that Monday of this week, December 14th, when the electors met and cast their votes for president,

1:20.0

that it has mooted all of those things.

1:23.2

Not true.

1:24.5

We've only had it rarely happen in our history,

1:27.3

but it has happened twice where multiple states have sent duplicate slates of electors. And in seven states on Monday, not only

1:37.2

the currently certified electors for Joe Biden met and cast their votes, but the alternate slate of electors for President Trump also met and cast their votes.

1:48.0

A similar thing happened in 1960 in Hawaii, when Vice President Richard Nixon had been in on the designated day and cast their votes and transmitted those votes to the

2:03.9

president of the Senate as federal law requires. But the Senator Kennedy pledged

2:08.5

electors also met and vote because there were election challenges still pending and they cast their votes

2:14.4

contingent on the results of those still pending challenges and when the

2:20.2

results of those challenges came in and Hawaii's election results appear to have gone for Senator Kennedy instead of Vice President Nixon, those votes were already at the Senate of the United States ready to be counted and they were counted in that election.

2:37.2

And then of course the other big time in American history when this happened was in 1876, four states, Florida, Louisiana, Oregon, and South Carolina, all submitted

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