You're going to see. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, boy.

Ah, I'm not a man.

All right, friends, Greg Kockel here, Stand a Reason,

and I'm glad you joined us today because we have an important

discussion coming up.

You know, you might recall me mentioning, and I've done this a number of times, some on air and

some before audiences, just that my concern now and the focus

of my, in a sense, my professional efforts, my chief concern has not been with reaching non-believers.

Obviously what we do at Stand to Reason is train people

to think more carefully about their convictions

and to defend those classical convictions about Christianity

in the face of opposition, to do it graciously, to do it effectively.

And so that obviously has an evangelistic application but my concern now is much more

for the church in a different fashion and that is protecting the church from the world without and from the

wolves within. All right? And there are lots of wolves. I've said said this before and that's actually the focus of our conversation today

It's the reason that I've asked my friend

Jason he managed to join us today his most recent book. I think it's most recent it just came out about a month

ago the day the day my book came out street smarts it's called hijacking Jesus

how progressive Christians are remaking him and taking over his church.

Jason, welcome to the show.

Greg, thanks for having me, I appreciate it, brother.

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