You're going to see. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Okay, I am so glad that you're going to be.

Okay, friends, I am so glad that you join me today because I get a chance to how you get a chance to

listen in to a chat that I'm having with one of my best friends across the board.

I got a lot of colleagues that are dear to me. This guy is the dearest just about.

Except for on my own team, we got close people, but actually he used to be on our team and there's a sense that we were even kind of connected before this guy was even a Christian.

Of course I'm talking about the storied cold case detective Jay Warner Wallace and Jim.

What a treat to see your face here and to have you on board.

I'm still on your team.

You couldn't.

I'm just not able to be in the office all the time,

but I'm still, I still feel like I'm part of your team you

I'm really grateful I was just speaking in the official sense but absolutely and

we work so much together and you have logged many years as a primary player with

a real rethink and then reality as we changed the name and

and we were talking earlier like here we live in the same state in the same

portion of the same state we only see each other when we're both in

different states together you know it's so weird and hard because I enjoy my time

with you so much but you know I just made just for fun here I made a comment well we are actually connected even

before you knew the Lord you are a Christian when you're still an atheist you

want to say a word about that yeah because I was listening to your show and I

was thinking oh this is you, isn't it interesting that as I get older I realize how much of life is connected to our struggles in life even are connected to how we see ourselves to identity? And even then, I think I had a hard time, I would have had a hard time

accepting Christianity as true. If I thought that I had to give up certain sensibilities

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